Minutes of the Meeting of Wednesday April 3, 2002

1. Call to order

President Chris Warrick, County of Mendocino called the meeting was called to order at 12:12 P.M. at Cattleman's Restaurant in Santa Rosa.

2. Self Introductions

Pres. Warrick welcomed 17 members and guest speaker and environmental attorney Paul Hagan.
Mr. Hagan represents and assists district attorneys all over the entire state of California in preparation and prosecution of environmental cases.

3. Approval of Minutes

Corrections were made to the minutes. Once again the minutes were emailed to the members and posted to our web site. The web site address is (

M/s/Passed to accept the minutes as distributed.

4. Program

Vice Pres. Fagalde introduced Paul Hagan. He is a Deputy District Attorney and Circuit Prosecutor for the California State District Attorneys Association and as an environmental attorney assists district attorneys through out the state and also prosecutes cases for qualifying jurisdictions. Sonoma and Marin do not qualify for Mr. Hagan's services and each of these counties have their own prosecuting environmental district attorney. Mr. Hagan then spoke for a time on his job responsibilities, procedures, processes and how he accomplishes these tasks. He informed us of the various types of violations, such as, hazardous material spills and dumping, pollution of air and water, habitat destruction as well as code violations. Mr. Hagan gave us a lot to remember in just a few minutes. There are only 80 environmental prosecutors in the entire state so Mr. Hagan keeps very busy. He also gave us a telephone number to call if we need to contact him for additional information or assistance. He requested the telephone number he gave us not be given to the general public as it is his direct office line. If any of you need the number I have it at my office. You can find all my information on the web page.

5. Officers and Committee Reports

a. Treasurer

Tres. Willer was absent so V. P. Fagalde gave the balances. The checking account balance is $1741.63, the business account is $2696.22, the education fund is $3637.99 and the CD is $11,155.92. A bill was presented for services by Mail Boxes Etc. After a brief discussion on the status of the bill, it was decided that the bill was a standard operating cost type bill and does not need a motion to pay it.

b. Secretary

The secretary thanked all of the members for using the web site and for allowing the minutes to be emailed. Nothing further to report.

c. Vice President

Vice President Mary Jane Fagalde has a member asked a member of the Regional Water Quality Control Board to speak for the June Meeting. Bill Shulze, City of Windsor, volunteered to assist V.P. Fagalde in procuring the RWQCB speaker.

d. President

President Warrick has nothing to report.

e. Executive Committee

Nothing to report.

f. Education Committee

Ed Henry, County of Marin reported that there are no educational programs scheduled. He reported on a program presented by the state regarding disaster response processes and programs to obtain a fair share of the disaster funds set aside for this type of event. If you have any requests for information and education let me know. The representative from the NFPA had said previously that he would set up cost free training for any jurisdiction adopting the NFPA building and electrical codes. We are currently researching this possibility.

g. Code Development Committee

Don Morton reported that the committee did meet and the committee is requesting that the local jurisdiction compile a list of their amendments to the code so the committee can develop a matrix for the purpose of making recommendations for code changes.

h. ICBO Committee

Nothing to Report.

i. CALBO Liaison

Steve Jensen, County of Marin, reported that at the CALBO annual business meeting March 11-15, the conference elected Tony Elmo President for the coming year. He also reported that there will be a change for the ATC-20 training. For the first annual Fire Prevention Officer of the year CALBO elected Redwood Empire Chapter's own Doug Williams.

6. Correspondence and Announcements


7. Legislative News

Steve Jensen, County of Marin, reported that William Shock proposed an amendment to allow cities and counties to propose amendments to change the California State Building Standards Code. Any proposal shall meet a nine point criteria for consideration and information shall be provided in support of the change.

8. Nominating Committee

Nothing to report.

9. Old Business


10. New Business

Dave Martinez, City of Santa Rosa, brought up the annual business and code change meeting of the National Fire Protection Association and the fact that he will be attending as a regular member. He made an application for a grant to assist him in covering the cost of attending the meeting. As a regular member of the NFPA 5000 committee, he would be inside the ropes on the meetings, discussions, decisions and the voting process. After a lengthy discussion it was decided that the information gathered by Mr. Martinez on the code process would be invaluable to the Redwood Chapter. M/s/Passed to permit the grant and allow the secretary to write a check to Dave Martinez from the education fund in the amount of $600.00 to help defray the cost of the code change conference.

11. Code Issues

When the state set the effective date of the new code adoption at November 1, 2002 they inadvertently referenced the mechanical and plumbing codes, which are yet to be adopted. Therefore the effective date was illegal, as they cannot make codes effective that have yet to be adopted. Mr. Martinez reported that the building code, electrical code and the fire code will be effective on November 1, 2002. The plumbing and mechanical codes are uncertain as to the effective dates. The two items seeming to hold up the adoption process at this time appear to be corrugated stainless steel tubing and polyethylene cross linked tubing. Ed Henry, County of Marin, brought up the correspondence from Santa Barbara's Chief Building Official. He wanted our jurisdictions to answer a few questions concerning the application of technical codes and minimum housing and building codes to moved structures. The State of California Building Codes, Title 24 and 25, prohibit the application of housing or technical codes to structures moved into or within a county. The only exception is an obvious hazard to life or safety.

Dave Martinez, City of Santa Rosa, brought up the question of whether or not a recreation room in a mobile home park under state jurisdiction is the responsibility of the local jurisdiction because it is built in place and the state only takes responsibility for the mobile and modular units. His main question is "Does the ADA and the Title 24 Accessibility Standards apply to the recreation building as it is not open to the public but for park resident use only?". There were varying opinions as to occupancy and responsibility, but, the consensus seemed to indicate that the structure and its use is the responsibility of the local jurisdiction. The park's attorney wrote to the state and received an opinion that the local jurisdiction does not have responsibility as the use is only for the residents, no public is permitted to use the building and therefore the responsibility of the state. Mr. Martinez said that he agreed with the consensus but could not find a code section giving the local jurisdiction responsibility. He asked if anyone could provide him with a code section.

12. Adjournment

M/s/Passed to adjourn the meeting at 1:42 P.M.

Respectfully submitted by Ed Henry