REDWOOD EMPIRE CHAPTER
CONFERENCE OF BUILDING OFFICIALS
Minutes of the Meeting of Tuesday,
April 1, 2003
1. Call to order
Henry, County of Marin, called the meeting to order at 1:09 P.M.
2. Self Introductions
President Henry welcomed
twenty-seven attendees and called for self-introductions.
3. Approval of Minutes
Minutes were posted at
the website, corrections made and e-mailed to all prior to the meeting. For a
copy of past minutes and agendas, go to the website at (www.reicbo.org).
M/s/Passed to accept the minutes as posted / sent.
4. Officers and Committee Reports
Treasurer Daryl Phillips reported that he has completed some housekeeping,
closing both the business money market account and the education interest
checking account and transferring the balances of those accounts to the business
interest checking account. The balance of the checking account was reported at
$17,103.58. The Investment CD balance is $11,325.65.
Secretary Tom Carlton reported that he is still getting some e-mail returned. A
sign in sheet was passed around the room for all to provide current contact
c. Vice President
President Henry discussed the issue of the Chapter becoming a member of the ICC.
The executive committee will review the membership application and policies and
bring this back to the membership for vote in June (ICC policies regarding
chapters are available on our website – www.reicbo.org).
e. Executive Committee
The transition meeting has not been held yet.
f. Education Committee
Daryl Phillips reported that twenty-two persons attended the 2001 CBC Structural
Update seminar – basically a rehash of the ’97 changes. Per group vote, there
was little discussion of ICC. There is some uncertainty of the ICBO billing for
these seminars, but we may be due a credit. CALBO has not yet issued a check to
REICBO for the ATC-20 seminar. Ed Henry mentioned that seminars are there for
the asking for PEX piping products and installation.
(A free ˝ day seminar is scheduled for April 30, at the Marin Civic Center, room
328, beginning at 12:00 noon)
g. Code Development Committee
h. ICBO Liaison
i. CALBO Liaison
Dave Martinez discussed the latest BSC developments on NFPA 5000. Direction will
be given at the May 1st meeting, all are urged to attend. Larry will post BSC
meeting schedules on the REICBO website.
Daryl Phillips reported
the following scheduled meeting locations:
May 6, Sonoma area TBA (tentatively scheduled for The Plaza Bistro in Sonoma)
June 3, Marin Joe’s, Corte Madera
July 1, Ukiah area TBA
August 5, Petaluma TBA
5. Correspondence and Announcements
6. Old Business
No old business.
7. New Business
Chris Warrick requested the Chapter to grant coverage of his expenses to attend
the County Building Officials annual meeting in San Diego. Discussion ensued.
M/s/passed to grant $500 with the proviso that Chris give a full report at the
following Chapter meeting.
Tom Ahrens had questions about ICC membership and the implications thereof, and
requested that we post the application info on the website for discussion at
8. Legislative News
Bill Talley began a discussion of
handicap access issues with the Attorney General’s letter regarding
“confirmation of deviations” and a ninety day correction requirement. Tom Ahrens
said he had spoken with an investigator who said that there were two time-tables
– one for “reasonable” time (vague) to respond and investigate the complaint,
and then ninety days after confirmation of a violation.
Bill Talley stated that grab bars are to be centered at exactly 33” above
finished floor, unless the tank lid requires them to be up to 36”.
Ed Henry mentioned that construction tolerances do not apply to disabled access
requirements. Tom Ahrens stated that he allows reasonable tolerances and that
there are books written on this matter, and recalled mention of this in a CALBO
newsletter. Some ADA guidebooks give tolerances. Orange County had adopted
tolerances that were later overturned.
Chris Warrick asked if an advocacy group could force changes that would decrease
the number of fixtures in order to achieve compliance at a restaurant. Jim
Moscoso asked how many employees? The Building Official must determine whether
the loss would be acceptable.
Joe Willer brought up the situation of a care home with <8 residents, no owner
occupancy, and the unconverted, unconditioned garage has been used by the
caretaker as a sleeping room for decades, prior to incorporation. The fire
district wants the sub-standard use eliminated. Doug Williams suggested the Fire
District could enforce compliance upon permit renewal. However, if the garage
was legally converted or approved prior to the City’s incorporation, it is hard
to require upgrades now.
The discussion then turned to affordable housing. On July 1st, the new laws
eliminating discretion on permitting of accessory units as residential units. To
be considered in helping meet affordable housing quotas, existing second units
must be brought into compliance with the Housing Code – not the CBC. Mike
Enright mentioned that Sonoma County had an amnesty program for non-conforming
properties to eliminate penalties and encourage improvements to be made legal.
Steve Buffenbarger asked about a dwelling wall 2’-10” from the property line
having a requirement for any window to be rated and allowing a 12” eave. One
solution offered was to Building Official approval with a recorded deed
restriction that there will be no building constructed on the adjacent parcel.
DeWayne Starnes asked whether any jurisdictions were requiring AFCI protection /
compliance for sub-panel replacements. Most agreed this is not done unless the
bedrooms are rewired at the same time. The question of available test equipment
for inspectors was asked. Currently there is one listed device, costing about
$160.00. The first device listed was recalled shortly thereafter, as it was
shocking the users. Ed Henry suggested the issue be posted on the website as a
survey, and mentioned that Tom Luhmann will make a presentation on the issue at
the May meeting in Sonoma.
The Annual meeting of the Nor Cal Fire Chiefs will be held at the Buck Center in
Novato on April 25.
M/s/Passed motion to adjourn at 1:51
Respectfully submitted by Tom Carlton